I added Fortitude 9 since ability in Fortitude 9 is Arm of Prometheus which is used by Lazarus in his rituals! (178.148.31.218) 14:35, September 15, 2014 (UTC)
Could you provide a reference (the associated book, together with the page the information appears on)? And even if the info is authentic, I would not alter an original Character page that has been published from official side with the info, but instead transcribe your reasoning for the alteration (the use of Arms of Prometheus) into the Speculation sub-section, as part of the evidence that Japheth and Lazarus are the same person (or at least something similar).Sharth (talk) 17:41, September 15, 2014 (UTC)
This information is presented by Players Guide to the High Clans, p. 156. However, it refers to Lazarus, not Japhet. Furthermore, the book says that it is believed that Lazarus discovered that power. See the difference?
I'm aware that you might argue that Lazarus and Japhet are the same person, this is nothing but speculation, however. So quit screwing with the article please. Russel Hammond (talk) 11:20, September 16, 2014 (UTC)
Okay page 156 in Players guide to high clans is listing Forititude 9 as it is believed that Lazarus from clan cappadocian invented that power plus why do u name his magic necromancy since cappadocians use mortis.So that would mean if he doesnt have Fortitude 9 he's 100% not Lazarus same as u changed Elimelech 2nd to 5th why cause logic applied that it needs changing when someone has two powers level 9 fortitude ,dementation to me logic applies if Lazarus is cappadocian and invented things he would have mortis and fortitude.Even by going children of night logic square root of disciplines knowing his age would grant more disciplines(9100 years square root is 95 disciplines ) he has less so i used mostly logic when i changed character info.Not claiming that i m 100% right just it seems to me that cappadocian would have mortis and fortitude since giovanni made "Necromancy".
Sry to piss you guys off for changing page :P :)
Japhet's character sheet is presented by the book Giovanni Chronicles I, p. 82. Do you really think that is reasonable to change the official character sheet based on assumptions? I don't think so.
And about Elimelech, we don't know to what generation he belongs. He might be originally a fifth generation, but today I believe he's a 4th. However, the book Children of the Night says his generation has been attributed to any from the 2nd through 5th, so that's the information we want to keep, regardless of our personal assumptions.
Russel Hammond (talk) 11:28, September 16, 2014 (UTC)
Azurllan (talk) 11:55, September 16, 2014 (UTC) ^^ i m sorry for changing Japheth yet i didnt change Elimelech i thought you guys did LOL!Now i m part of community so u can torture me more :D !