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A talk page is a special page that is devoted to discussion about the contents of its associated subject article. To view the talk page, click on the "Discuss this page" link in the sidebar. When you are viewing the talk page, you can click on the "View article" link to go back to the main article. Talk pages are available for all namespaces.

Talk pages are used for:

  • Comments about articles. Positive or negative feedback from readers is always welcome for any article!
  • Discussing the validity of an article. Sometimes, a reader or other contributor might have a question about the canonicity of a certain fact described in an article. The talk page can be used to iron out differences of opinion concerning the article's validity.
  • Discussing potential changes to an article. Often, it becomes necessary to rewrite an article. The talk page is a useful place to discuss what sort of changes are needed.

However, talk pages are not used simply for general discussion or chat. (See What WWWiki is not)

User talkEdit

Every contributor who registers an account with WWWiki has their own user talk page. User talk pages are intended to facilitate communications between Archivists — the contributors to WWWiki. As such, they have a few extra features to make them more useful.

There is a link to your own user talk page at the top of every page, next to your user name. Also, if someone else edits your user talk page (adding a comment, for example), an alert informing you that "You have new messages" will appear at the top of the page.

Note that the user talk pages are public, just like every other page in the WWWiki database. As such, they should not be used for any sort of private communications.

To write in another user's talk page, first view their user page, then click the "Discuss this page" link in the sidebar. On special pages such as the Recent Changes page and the watchlist, you can click on the (Talk) links that follow the user's name or IP address.

Post a commentEdit

When editing a talk page, you have the option to click the "Post a comment" link. This feature creates a new section on the page with a separate header — essentially, a new thread of discussion, or for a reply to be added to the very bottom of the page.

  • For a new thread, fill in the "Subject/headline" field. It will automatically be used as the header for the comment, as well as for the edit summary.
  • For a reply to be added to the end of the page, leave the "Subject/headline" field empty. In this case, it's not possible to add an edit summary.

Standards and practicesEdit

A few general standards apply to talk pages, simply to keep them reasonably well-organized and easily readable. Some of the more controversial talk pages may be very heavily used, so please follow the conventions! It'll make the discussions develop easier.

  • Sign your posts. To sign a post, use three tildes (~~~) to sign your name — the tildes will be replaced with your nickname (as set in your preferences) and a link to your user page. Alternatively, you can use four tildes (~~~~) to sign with your username and a time stamp. We recommend that you sign your posts on talk pages.
  • Indent posts for organization. The first contributor to a talk page should have no indentation in the message. The next person starts their message with one colon (:), and the third person uses two colons (::), and so on. If the first person replies to the message again, he or she uses the same indentation for their subsequent messages as for the first message. This method helps distinguish who is saying what.
  • Add new posts to the bottom of the thread. The further down the contribution is in the thread, the later it was posted.
  • Separate discussion topics. Put each new topic under a separate section header. The "Post a comment" feature to create new sections. You can also use horizontal lines (----) to create breaks in the threads.
  • Archive, don't delete. When the talk page has become extremely long, it's important to not delete talk page content, but to archive it instead. Create a new page in the Talk: or White Wolf talk: namespace, with an explanatory name (a subpage is acceptable in this circumstance), and move the older content to that page. Then, describe on the archive page where the discussion originally comes from, and provide a link to the original page. Also include a link on the original talk page to the archive page, for those who wish to read the old discussion.
  • Summarize discussion. When a discussion has died down and been ignored for several weeks, you might replace the discussion with a summary of the key points, as if you were writing an article concerning the discussion. Be sure to cover opposing arguments and present them from an unbiased view. Cover common ground if possible.
  • Don't misrepresent other opinions. Correcting other people's mistakes is always acceptable, and deleting personal attacks is fine, but don't edit someone else's post to change its meaning. Editing or deleting your own posts can be done at your own discretion. Avoid context swizzling.
  • Use UTC to tell time. Referring to the time in UTC helps standardize the clocks and ensure that there's no confusion concerning the timing of specific events.
  • Cite the page name. Sometimes pages get moved. Therefore, if the page gets moved later on, it will still be clear what page the discussion is referring to.

A talk page is one of several places where you can speak with your fellow editors. They are an older, purely wikitext-based form of article comments and Message Walls. They are primarily used to hash out improvements to a single page or to the community as a whole.

How to leave a message

Article talk page

Talk-link

The link to the talk page is under the Edit dropdown

To get to an article talk page (while visiting the article itself), click the "Edit" button, then find the "Talk" option—which is usually at the very bottom of the drop-down list. Click on it, and you'll be taken to the talk page.

To leave an article talk page message, follow these steps:

  • Click "Add topic" ( AddTopicButton ) to create a new discussion area.
  • Enter your message in the editor window. At the end of your message, type four tildes ("~~~~") or click the signature button in the toolbar. This will generate a signature with your name when you hit Publish.
  • You can enter the title of your message in the "Subject/headline" text field near the Publish button, which will become the title of a new section. You can also choose to do this manually by inserting text between pairs of equal signs (== ==), creating the title for a new section (it is recommended that this is the first line in the message).
    • If needed, it can be helpful to click the Preview button to check how your message looks.
  • Click Publish.
  • To respond to a talk page message, simply edit that section of the talk page, and indent your reply. You can indent by putting a colon (":") at the front of each line. Be sure to sign your response with ~~~~.
  • Article talk pages are often a place to resolve disagreements about an article, so remember to be friendly and civil in all of your interactions there.

User talk page

Talk page tab

To get to a user talk page from a user profile, click the "Talk page" tab. To leave the user a message, follow these steps:

  • Click the "Leave message" ( Leave message ) button at the top of the talk page.
  • Enter your message in the editor window. As with article talk pages, type four tildes ("~~~~") at the end of your message to generate a signature with your username when you hit Publish.
  • Enter the title of your message in the "Subject/headline" text field near the Publish button.
    • If needed, it can be helpful to click the Preview button to check how your message looks.
  • Click Publish.
  • To respond to a talk page message, simply edit that section of the talk page, and indent your reply. You can indent by putting a colon (":") at the front of each line. And don't forget to use ~~~~ to sign your response!

Updating to Comments and Walls

Fandom has developed features that have improved the conversational experience for articles and user profiles. For articles, we have Comments, allowing users and readers to instantly comment on a page and share their thoughts. For user profiles, we have Message Walls, which offer a more intuitive way to talk with your fellow editors. Walls, for example, are threaded, so they keep dialogues in one place. They also notify all participants when there are updates to a specific conversation, and can let anyone follow a conversation for updates.

We encourage communities to use these features for easier commenting. If they are not already enabled on your community, local administrators can turn them on in WikiFeatures.

Archiving talk pages

How to do it

Archives of talk pages are made when a talk page becomes too long for either the user to easily find a past conversation or for one's web browser to render the talk page fast enough. An archive is simply a subpage of the user talk page where old conversations are stored (e.g. [[User talk:Foo/Archive]]).

To create an archive, simply cut (Ctrl + X) all the old conversations from your talk page from beginning to end. Then, create a new page in your user talk space (User talk:Foo/Archive 1) and paste (Ctrl + V) the old conversations there. If you already have one archive, create a second archive page (e.g. [[User talk:Foo/Archive 2]]) to avoid the archive being too long too!

Archiving etiquette

When archiving old discussions, it is customary to leave current, ongoing discussions on the existing Talk page. In some cases, a header text is also preserved. Also, it is good to leave a link near the top of your talk page to the archive so users can easily find previous discussions.

It is recommended that you do not attempt to archive another user's talk page. These are not subject to the recommendations on this page, and each user may choose alternate means of archiving their own talk page, including choosing not to archive at all, but to instead remove old messages. Although, since those messages are other users' contributions, this is generally rude to do and in bad taste, with archival being more polite and considerate of what others say.

When archiving your talk page by moving it, be aware that this causes the newly-created archive to be added to the watchlist of any user who was previously watching your talk page. This could be annoying for people who have no desire to watch your talk archives.

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