User talk:IanWatson

Archives: 2005 - 2006 - 2007 - 2008

Feeling Lonely?
To be honest I forgot about this place but I'm back and I'll try to help again. Whispering 07:54, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Werewolf: the Forsaken
Hi there,

I have rearranged some data in the Rahu article to bear a closer resemblance to similar articles from other nWoD systems (e.g. Daeva). I thought it would be prudent for the uniformity and layout consistency of this Wiki, I hope you don't mind. If that's okay with you, I'll also update Elodoth, Irraka, et cetera.

-- MrManny 16:07, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll go ahead then and meddle with the other auspices (as well as other nWoD articles I feel I can contribute to) whenever I have some time to spare. Concerning a German version of a nWoD Wiki, I don't think this is feasible. The publisher for the German countries, Feder & Schwert, has pretty much abandoned the nWoD thing after just a few books due to financial issues. As far as I recall correctly, their publications are limited to (english title / german title): I think that's pretty much it; not much to write about. And to be perfectly honest, the quality of their translations is... mediocre. But then again, a German Wiki could be created from English books - the only real issues with this thought are words that lack a semantically correct counterpart in the German language, as for instance Mage's Prime Arcanum (I've seen and taken part in one quite exhausting controversy about potential translations once and we couldn't come up with a solution that would work for a significant majority). Personally, I'd rather suggest to stick with an English Wiki, most of us folks should have a sufficient understanding of the English language anyway.
 * 1) World of Darkness / Welt der Dunkelheit
 * 2) Vampire: the Requiem / Vampire: Requiem
 * 3) Werewolf: the Forsaken / Werwolf: Pariah
 * 4) Lancea Sanctum / Lancea Sancta
 * 5) Antagonists / Antagonisten

-- MrManny 18:32, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Apparently Rahu has been pretty much copied from White Wolf's Werewolf: The Forsaken, p.80. I think it's better to scrap the current version in order to avoid potential copyright issues. Or is there some sort of agreement/approval of White Wolf that allows this Wiki to copy whole paragraphs from their books?

-- MrManny 13:25, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Eraicon fix
You need to include this in MediaWiki:Common.js

/** Eraicons stuff ******************************* * and other various JS bits 'n' pieces */

addOnloadHook(loadFunc);

function loadFunc {	rewriteTitle;

showEras('title-eraicons'); showEras('title-shortcut');

rewriteHover; //replaceSearchIcon; }

function rewriteTitle {	if(typeof(window.SKIP_TITLE_REWRITE) != 'undefined' && window.SKIP_TITLE_REWRITE) return;

var titleDiv = document.getElementById("RealTitle");

if(titleDiv == null) return;

var cloneNode = titleDiv.cloneNode(true); var firstHeading = getFirstHeading; var node = firstHeading.childNodes[0];

// new, then old! firstHeading.replaceChild(cloneNode, node); cloneNode.style.display = "inline"; document.getElementById("RealTitleBanner").style.display = "none"; }

function getFirstHeading {       if(skin=="quartz"){ var elements = getElementsByClassName(document.getElementById('article'), 'h1', 'firstHeading'); }	else{ /*monobook, etc*/ var elements = getElementsByClassName(document.getElementById('content'), 'h1', 'firstHeading'); }	return (elements != null && elements.length > 0) ? elements[0] : null; }

function showEras(className) {	if(typeof(SKIP_ERAS) != 'undefined' && SKIP_ERAS) return;

var titleDiv = document.getElementById(className);

if(titleDiv == null || titleDiv == undefined) return;

var cloneNode = titleDiv.cloneNode(true); var firstHeading = getFirstHeading; firstHeading.insertBefore(cloneNode, firstHeading.childNodes[0]); cloneNode.style.display = "block"; }

function rewriteHover {	var gbl = document.getElementById("hover-global");

if(gbl == null) return;

var nodes = getElementsByClassName(gbl,'*','hoverable')

for (var i = 0; i < nodes.length; i++) {		nodes[i].onmouseover = function {			this.className += " over"; }

nodes[i].onmouseout = function {			this.className = this.className.replace(new RegExp(" over\\b"), ""); }	} }

You might have to play around to get it to work seeing as you've not named the templates era. -- Manticore 06:52, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Welcome
Hi guys. --L evitra 22:50, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Books
Hey, I just wanted to know, why you've erased the links of the books from Hunter the Reckoning I thought it would be nice if people could see where they could find material about the characters

lg Ally
 * I didn't erase them, I renamed them. The links you gave were incorrect book titles. To view a list of Hunter books, see Hunter: The Reckoning books. --Ian talk 23:25, 2 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I was on the book page but I didn't see the infernal book there before I made the link, maybe they weren't linked on the book page -> Category:Hunter: The Reckoning books gosh I think I made you do more work then I was helping, sorry ^^;


 * The category page will only show article pages which currently exist. The link I gave shows all the books released for Hunter, regardless of whether or not they have an article yet, and will show you the proper title to use for a book.


 * Don't worry too much; no one expects you to be perfect when you first start editing. Just keep an eye on what sort of changes people make to your articles, so you have a better idea of what to do, and sooner or later you'll be fine. (: --Ian talk 23:46, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

I'll try my best, I'm kinda impressed that I even did manage to do links.. and now they are all gone *sob* ;) I'm currently reading the infernal book, so I'll try to work on that and on the characters... and I hope I can find out what number the latelistener has... - Ally

Thanks for the Welcome message
Hi Ian! I saw your welcome message after I made a minor edit. Since I should be working on a paper for university at the moment, I won't be creating an account just now. Maybe later. Congratulations for all the good work you have done so for with this site! Cheers, Jens --145.254.162.48 10:12, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Hai!
Hey your page is really nice, I discovered it a while ago but never took time to actually browse it for a while. It is surprisingly complete seeing some sections are based around games that are considered dead by their publisher and the hype surrounding the nWoD. I personally like the oWoD best and know quite a bit of the games. I was never a hardcore gamer (I played D&D even tough I liked WoD better) but I bought a couple of sourcebooks and have found some info on the net. I will gladly help in the incomplete sections I find that I can expand upon. Thank you for having the vision to create such a useful resource for storytellers and fans of the WoD lore. BTW I would like to know if there is people who still play OWoD online (like a blogg or a group or a mailing list or something)

lets keep in touch, -- Khronos7 05:16, 12 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Glad you're enjoying the Wiki so far! I appreciate all the help I can get.
 * If you're looking for places to find oWOD gamers, I suggest checking out WW's oWOD forums. If you're looking for an online chat environment for RPing, I recommend this thread.
 * Best of luck! --Ian talk 17:33, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Old WW site
Dear Ian, I found a cached version of the old WW website. I always regretted I never saved anything that was on that site, so I'm really happy I can do now. I'll take what I need, but maybe it could be a good idea to repost some of its contents here on the wiki, especially the signature characters. I'd ask permission to WW myself but I know that sometimes english's intricacies are lost on me, plus I think you already know who to ask such a think, so would you please do that if you thing this is a good idea?

Here are a couple of links:   

Let me know, and thank you very much. --Vittek 19:11, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Correspondences
Hello Ian, I have an idea for an article that I think should be interesting: I want to list all links between various factions of the oWOD, and even their real-world inspirations when there is one. I'll also list references, but only when they talk about the connections between the various factions. The only problem is that I don't know how to call the page, I'd go with 'Correspondences' but then you'd have to disambiguate with the Mage Sphere of Correspondence. Any idea would be appreciated. I'll start to write the article here, so you can see what this is all about. -comes back after writing the article- Whew, I wrote a lot more than what I thought. Ok, I've created a Correspondences_(oWOD) page, so I don't pollute your talk page. Please let me know what you think, so we can rename the page. --Vittek 14:33, 1 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't think we need such a page. The information is useful, yes, but I don't see that we need a separate page for it.


 * We already have, for example, vampire (oWOD) versus Kindred (VTM). The latter (Kindred) is about vampires as they "are" or as they see themselves; the former (vampire) is about the interpretation of others and the views from outside. Various relations other groups have with vampires (like the origins of the Tremere, the love/hate relationship Wraiths have with the Giovanni, etc) would be appropriate to be placed there.


 * Real-world references would belong on the respective articles. Mogen Ha Chav should cover all the details about its relationship with real-world Kabbalah. I don't see a need for it to be placed on a separate page, unless that page happens to be about Kabbalah. --Ian talk 17:53, 1 May 2009 (UTC)