Ventrue Antediluvian

Ventru <3> (:~ -8000) Progeny of Enoch/Ynosh. Sire of Arakur of Ur (~ -3000), Medon , Veddartha and Aken Hoten (~ -1050). Name unknown. The sire of the 4th gen. ventrue Aken Hoten is named Nergal ; the sire of the 4th gen. ventrue Mithras is named Veddartha. Note that Nergal is also the name of a Baali founder (aka. Shaitan) and that Veddartha is probably alive and a 4th gen. Inconnu. Some sources says that Ventrue was destroyed by Brujah, or in torpor near ancient Persia. Claimed to have been the first of the Third Generation and Caine's closest advisor. Builder of the Second City.

Justin Achilli's Commentary
In the closing days of the original White Wolf forums, after all the Time of Judgment books had been released, but prior to the release of the new World of Darkness, Justin Achilli made the following post:


 * ([Ventrue] makes it past Gehenna. Every time something conspires to make things difficult for him, he arranges to be "killed," thereafter to return to the semblance of unlife he held before.)


 * (Read the Book of Nod, specifically "The Words of Ventrue to his Childer." Ventrue claims, "We ruled in Enoch!" as well as "We ruled in the Second City!" By all accounts, [Ventrue] is slain outside the Second City. However, "The Words of Ventrue to his Childer" also include venerations of Greek and Roman gods, dated far after the Second City. Further, assuming that [Ventrue] sired both Tiamat/Dragonskyr and Mithras, both of those events occurred long after the Second City. The Ventrue clanbook points to several times over the course of the centuries when someone at least claiming to be [Ventrue] undertook some course of action. Certainly, some of these were false. But not all.)


 * (According to p. 56 of Vampire the Masquerade, Antediluvians "are the last vampires to have true mastery over life and death, and maybe destroyed only if they so choose or if one of equal power bests them." We do not know who supposedly killed [Ventrue] outside the walls of the Second City, but if his historical appearances afterward are any indication, it could not have been [Brujah] or Troile, as is widely suspected, because either of them could, theoretically, be "of equal power." As the Book of Nod admonishes, "To rid yourself of an enemy, outlive him.")


 * (And so, that is the path [Ventrue] took, a true master of the Jyhad. By convincing the world of his Final Death, he placed himself outside it, and this was truth, for he was indeed dead. But by invoking his own "power over life and death," he could cheat that state, and return to undeath at his will.)


 * (Which is precisely how he weathered Gehenna. During the culling, he remained dead. As the last ashes of all the other Childer of Caine fell from the sky, his eyes flickered open in whatever forgotten tomb housed his ancient remains.)


 * (What does this mean for you? Whatever you want it to. It's maybe so much misdirection on my part, or maybe lingering threads of the Jyhad in the wake of Gehenna. But knowing it, can you be certain?)

Justin
 * Regards,